From rboliver@ix.netcom.com Sun Feb 15 00:50:01 2004 Path: news1.central.cox.net!central.cox.net!east.cox.net!filt01.cox.net!peer01.cox.net!cox.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!elnk-pas-nf1!newsfeed.earthlink.net!stamper.news.pas.earthlink.net!stamper.news.atl.earthlink.net!newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net.POSTED!f87f9cfa!not-for-mail From: Robert Oliver Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.rpg Subject: Re: walking/running in KOTOR (SPOILER) (long) Message-ID: References: X-Newsreader: MicroPlanet Gravity v2.60 Lines: 160 Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2004 22:20:59 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 65.176.9.214 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net 1076797259 65.176.9.214 (Sat, 14 Feb 2004 14:20:59 PST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2004 14:20:59 PST Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net Xref: east.cox.net comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.rpg:3065997 X-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2004 17:20:59 EST (news1.central.cox.net) In article , DELscrubbrushDEL@DELrogers.DELcom says... > "Robert Oliver" wrote in message > news:MPG.1a974d77e736424f9896cc@news.east.earthlink.net... > > > I believe I've mentioned that I managed to trigger the romance > > with Juhani on my first time through the game. Purely by accident > > I might add. I kind of floored me when she professed a romantic > > interest in my character. > > I too had her in my party when I spoke to Yuthura and I didn't > > even know there was a Dack Vesser in the game till my second > > time playing. > > If it wasn't the Yuthura incident that ticked her off, then another > possibility is that on my second time through, I usually saved a game before > having a conversation with her and then I'd reload and try out different > dialog options to see the responses. I do this with NPCs sometimes because > I'm not going to play the game 20 times just to see all the dialog - it's > quicker to just reload a few times. It's possible that I continued a game > from the "wrong" point because of that, like after I'd chosen a dialog > option that was offensive to her. Or perhaps it was the Dack Vesser > incident since neither one of us did that scenario when we got the temple > top dialog, though I can't think of anything related to that incident that > would kill a romance with her. When I talked to him in the cantina > afterwards, I was nice to him. I have a saved game just before talking to > him in the valley - if I'm curious enough, I might test out that theory > since Korriban was the planet I did last so I wouldn't be replaying much. > I found this in one of the Bioware forums. It was posted by one of the game designers. Hope it helps. Peter Thomas Designer Joined: 22 May 2002 Posted: Tuesday, 27 January 2004 11:41AM Ok, here is The List. This is the outline of Juhani's plot. She has two series of stories, her History ones, and her Personal ones. The history ones are very linear. There are 7 of them, so basically you need 6 levels to hear all of her History stories. Her Personal stories are a little different. They are based on levels, the progression in her History, and the number of star maps the player has. The first time you talk to her, she'll apologize for what she did. If the character is female, the uh... "special" variable will be set to true. History ---------- When you talk to her again, the option 'How did you come to be a Jedi?' will be available. This is H1. Once you have gained a level, the option 'Tell me more about your past.' will be available. This is H2. She will open with 'Well... I suppose I have not talked very much about the Jedi I met back home.'. Once you have gained a level, she should open with 'Yes? What is it?'. The option 'Is something wrong?' will be available. This is H3. She will open with 'I... have been bothered by something of late...'. Once you have gained a level, she should open with 'Yes? What is it?'. The option 'Is something wrong?' will be available. This is H4. She will open with 'I was remembering Taris...'. Once you have gained a level, she will be back to her normal dialogue. The option 'Tell me more about your past.' will be available. This is H5. She will open with 'Well, I mentioned before that my parents had fled to Taris. Perhaps I can tell you about that.'. Once you have gained a level, the option 'What happened after your father died?' will be available. This is H6. Once you have gained another level, but ONLY if you haven't collected 4 star maps, the option 'Tell me more about your past.' will be available. This is H7.She will open with 'I have told you my life story already, what more could you possibly want to know? Well... there is one thing...'. This is the end of her History stories. Personal ------------- The very first apology she give you when you talk to her the first time after she joins your party is P1. When you talk to her again, the option 'Are you doing alright?' will be available. This is P2. She will open with 'I... I thank you for your concern, but I am still a bit shaken.'. Once you have at least 2 star maps, the option 'What are you thinking about?' will be available. This is P3. She will open with 'I have been thinking much about our journey, and I am grateful and honored that you have accepted me with you.'. Once you have H3, the option 'What are you thinking about?' will be available. This is P4. She will open with 'Taris was my home for many years. As much as I hated it, it was still home.'. Once you have gained a level, the option 'Are you doing alright?' will be available. This is P6. She will open with 'I have been doing well, I suppose. As well as I can. But I am more interested in you right now.'. Once you have at least 3 star maps, she will open with one of 3 unique phrases 'I have been watching you... and I cannot help but feel that you are becoming more distant.' (if darkside), 'I... I have been watching you for some time. I wonder if you have noticed.' (if lightside), or 'I have been thinking about our journey together, and how we are more similar than I had first thought.' (if neutral). This is P7. Once you have killed Xor, and are on the Unknown World after having driven off Bastila, she will open with 'This may be the last time I will have a chance to talk to you...'. This is P11. This is all that remains of her Personal stories. Xor ----- Once you have had P7, Xor will spawn in at a messenger trigger, then run away after talking to Juhani. The next time you come back, he will attack with some thugs. He will have a death speech. That is all for Xor. And the fact that Juhani say "I only wish I had your heart" to a male character... well... that's a bug. :/ Can't get everything... and can't re-record either. -- Such order in the midst of chaos makes me woozy and disoriented. -Alice -American McGee's Alice